Kyle Bishop from Rotoballer (@amoralpanic) joins Nick Pollack to talk all things Starting Pitching in Fantasy Baseball in Episode 53 of On The Corner. This week, they review Nick’s Top 100 SP for 2018, discussing the ranks of Luke Weaver, Luis Castillo, Luis Severino, Kyle Hendricks, Michael Fulmer, Marcus Stroman, Garrett Richards, and many others.
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- Luis Severino + Noah Syndergaard (2:55)
- Aaron Nola (12:05)
- Luis Castillo (15:50)
- Luke Weaver (23:40)
- Michael Fulmer (31:25)
- Alex Wood (36:05)
- Chase Anderson (39:35)
- Garrett Richards (44:20)
- Kyle Hendricks + Marcus Stroman + Lance Lynn (47:55)
- Alex Reyes (56:40)
- Dinelson Lamet (1:00:55)
- Lucas Giolito (1:04:50)
- Trevor Cahill (1:11:40)
- Carson Fulmer (1:14:05)
- Matt Strahm (1:16:55)
Alright, I’ll take the bait. Cashner V Lynn. I can tell that you kind of regretted the comparison almost immediately, but here we go:
Cashner struck out well under 5 per 9. Lynn was over 7. We are done there right?
Lynn posted a career worst BB rate in his first year following TJ – sounds about right to me, it should come down. Cashner posted a BB rate north of 4 the previous season, I think his command problems are more severe. Lynn also posted a career low K rate in his first season back from TJ – not sure that will improve, but it could. If you are comparing the two, then you may as well just say that you are biased. I get it. We all have our biases. You are a big advanced metrics guy and advanced metrics hate Lynn – you don’t even have to defend your position, but you are selling him short. He may pitch zero innings ever again and you still sold him short. He follows Robert Stephenson in the rankings and you just made a case for him being Andrew Cashner. You don’t need to stomp on guys you don’t like. You can just promote the ones that you do, its what you are best at.
I enjoyed the podcast and thanks for the rankings.
Yes and no.
Yes Lynn is obviously better than Cashner and I don’t think that was ever up for contention.
I didn’t prepare to go into a Cashner v. Lynn on the cast, which means my numbers were slightly off, but I don’t I was too far off either.
Yes, the strikeouts are a major difference of 2.70 K/9. No question! And I’m not saying you shouldn’t go after Lynn over Cashner.
…but I think there is something to be said that Lynn’s value hinged super strongly on that 3.43 ERA that I don’t think is sustainable. It’s what drove up Lynn’s value this year as despite having better K numbers than Cashner, averaging 4.6 Ks per start is pretty underwhelming.
I get the argument that this is the first year back from TJS so maybe he needed to get his bearings. It’s possible, I’m not ruling it out. Not one that I’m going to put weight into, but something to consider.
” You don’t need to stomp on guys you don’t like.”
But I do! Half of the equation is tell people who to avoid, I don’t have much of a choice here. If a player does well that I don’t think will repeat success, I definitely have to say that. It’s critical.
Always enjoy the back and forth Kraken!
Fair enough – stomping is fun too! You just have to have thick enough skin, which you do!
In a vacuum, who would you rather keep. Luke Weaver or James Paxton?
I would rather have more established/healthy options than both if them! I would go Paxton FWIW.
Will you be putting out an article giving auction values for the top 100 pitchers for 2018? Guys might be ranked consecutive but be far apart in actual value.