I Pivy the Fool

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I didn’t think that I would be talking about Nick Pivetta tonight, but after a line of 5.2 IP, 0 ER, 4 Hits, 0 BBs, 9 Ks and 15 whiffs that earn him his first ever Gallows Pole I don’t have much of a choice. He earned 11 whiffs on 44 breaking balls thrown, and while that number isn’t so high the fact that he threw so many breakers is what makes me happy. I still question if Pivetta has the fastball command or good enough breaking pitches to make this work, but this is an excellent first step. Now let’s see if he can do it again as he gets the Reds next Wednesday. I’m thinking a resounding “No” but I want to be wrong. Prove me wrong, Pivetta. Prove me wrong.

Let’s see how every other SP did Thursday:

Tyler Anderson – 6.0 IP, 0 ER, 4 Hits, 0 BBs, 4 Ks. I think it’s time for Blame it on the Padres. I didn’t expect Anderson to rebound this much after his 7 ER outing, but hey, good for him. Now at least I can consider him for starts outside Coors and against poor teams for a stream. Not to own? Pffft nah. Too low of a floor for that without enough upside.

Yonny Chirinos – 5.0 IP, 0 ER, 3 Hits, 0 BBs, 4 Ks. This was a “bullpen game”, but Chirinos managed to get through five frames in just 54 pitches. This is as fortunate as the Rays will get all year. So you’re saying Chirinos isn’t worth it? Let me put it this way. Yonny? More like Yawny. I wish I didn’t ask. Me too.

Jon Lester – 6.0 IP, 0 ER, 3 Hits, 1 BBs, 6 Ks. Whoa whoa whoa, Lester, this is supposed to be entering a spiraling descent, what is this? Ohhh right, he’s still at #40 on The List as starts like this are still possible. I’d be selling high if you own him, but he should still be helpful through the year. Probably.

Joey Lucchesi – 5.0 IP, 0 ER, 1 Hits, 3 BBs, 7 Ks. I almost led with Joey, but I’m anticipating a little more excitement over Pivetta. I need to quell both of it, as Lucchesi really isn’t someone you want to pursue. Think Newcomb with worse strikeout ability and a worse curveball, but slightly better fastball command and a touch fewer walks. But we don’t like Newcomb and that sounds like the same value. You’re on point tonight. I’ve been working out.

David Price – 7.0 IP, 0 ER, 3 Hits, 3 BBs, 5 Ks. Aces gonna ace. That’s 14 shutout innings thus far from Price. I hope y’all don’t think he’s still hurt.

Steven Brault – 5.0 IP, 1 ER, 3 Hits, 4 BBs, 4 Ks. Brault, if you want me to ever take you seriously, you have to get rid of this whole “I’m going to walk four guys” thing. First of all, it’s Five guys, not Four guys, and you have to work on proper grammar. You can do better Probably, but this is what you’re getting. You see this disappointment Brault? That’s what you do to owners.

Andrew Cashner – 6.0 IP, 1 ER, 2 Hits, 3 BBs, 5 Ks. I Cashed Out and expected a horrible start from Cashner. What we got was a dope line and Orioles fan staring at the TV in disbelief. Just like they drew it up. Do you think tha— No. Please don’t add Cashner.

Jacob deGrom – 6.0 IP, 1 ER, 4 Hits, 3 BBs, 5 Ks. Aces gonna kinda ace. Just give me like one or two more Ks, alright?

Kyle Gibson – 4.1 IP, 1 ER, 7 Hits, 1 BBs, 3 Ks. Gibson, you know that 3 whiffs is like the exact opposite of what you did last week right? And you understand this means we’re donezo, right? Yeah…. Now’s when I do that popular thing of walking away hoping they pull me back in. Seduce me again Gibson.

Robbie Ray – 6.0 IP, 1 ER, 2 Hits, 5 BBs, 9 Ks. I can’t be the only one that finds it ridiculous that this start is great all the way through, even with five walks to his name. It’s like your friend who doesn’t study for the test but gets a better grade than you.

James Paxton – 5.0 IP, 2 ER, 4 Hits, 1 BBs, 7 Ks. Yeah, I’ll definitely take this from Pax. Way to bring back the velocity of touching 97/98 and slinging cutters like it’s your J-O-B.

Daniel Mengden – 5.1 IP, 3 ER, 5 Hits, 1 BBs, 2 Ks. I don’t believe in Mengden being anything more than a super rare streamer. It’s just not for me, Meng.

Martin Perez – 5.1 IP, 3 ER, 10 Hits, 0 BBs, 1 Ks. If you started Perez tonight, you made a Grave Mistake.

James Shields – 5.0 IP, 3 ER, 8 Hits, 1 BBs, 1 Ks. If James were to be in the armory supplier business, his slogan would be “OK Shields”. I kinda wish he had 0 strikeouts instead of one so that would work a little better, but let’s be honest. He’d made em out of twigs and whatever grass he could find. During WWII.

Caleb Smith – 3.0 IP, 3 ER, 2 Hits, 6 BBs, 4 Ks. Ugggggh. He still had 13 whiffs in this game – fourth best on the day – and I wonder if he’ll suddenly be that sleeper later this year, but six walks? Seriously? You sound like my grandpa bragging at the old folks home. Oh Janice, you went for two walks this week? I HAD SIX. Oh I’m taking the loss here too. I deserve it. Streaming Record: 2-4 There’s plenty of time left, don’t worry about me.

Masahiro Tanaka – 6.1 IP, 3 ER, 6 Hits, 0 BBs, 7 Ks. If you’re curious like me, Tanaka is going even deeper, this time throwing just 19 four-seamers + sinkers + cutters in favor of sliders and splitters + 1 curveball across 93 pitches. I love it, you should love it, and you’ll take this start and the many others ahead.

Adam Wainwright – 3.2 IP, 3 ER, 4 Hits, 4 BBs, 3 Ks. Flaherty was taken from us for this. FOR THIS. Like he did to Beltran, Waino has once again taken the hopes and dreams away from thousands. Not millions? Come on, not that many people are such masochists that they root for the Mets.

Homer Bailey – 4.2 IP, 4 ER, 7 Hits, 3 BBs, 2 Ks. Awww man. I was hoping Bailey was going to build off his start against the Nats last week and this was everything I remember hating about Homer Bale in season’s past. Welp, on to the next guy.

Stephen Strasburg – 6.0 IP, 4 ER, 5 Hits, 2 BBs, 6 Ks. Blegh. We know Stras is better, it’s just painful to see this. We’ll get through this like we got past the first season of GoT after…well you know.

Brent Suter – 5.0 IP, 4 ER, 8 Hits, 3 BBs, 5 Ks. You shouldn’t be surprised, we knew this would happen Suter or later.

Jordan Zimmermann – 4.1 IP, 6 ER, 9 Hits, 1 BBs, 3 Ks. Yep, that’s Zimmermann alright. I’m a little upset I didn’t pick him for the WHERST, but you live and learn. Then get Luvs.

Today’s Streamer

CC Sabathia vs. Baltimore Orioles – The D’Ohs are bad and CC has a long-time track record of doing well against them + a decent chance at a Win.

Tomorrow’s Streamer

Mike Minor vs. Toronto Blue Jays – I’m not too afraid of the Jays and I think Minor has it in him to spin off a good outing. I’d also consider Andrew Triggs against the Angels.

Day After Tomorrow’s Streamer

Reynaldo Lopez vs. Detroit Tigers – A pretty easy one given how well he performed against the Jays last time out.

Game of the Day

Luis Castillo vs. Pittsburgh Pirates – The first game wasn’t so pretty, but I have faith it’s going to be a lot better today.

You Are The WHERST

Daniel Gossett vs. Los Angeles Angels – I’m trying to go a little against the grain, turning down McCarthy in Coors or Perdomo against the Astros. Gotta get creative.

Nick Pollack

Founder of PitcherList.com. Rotographs and Washington Post contributor and has worked with CBS Sports, Grantland, and SB Nation. Former pitching coach and Brandeis alum.

Comments


Glenn

VERY grateful to have found your site this season……without a doubt the most perceptive pitcher analysis I’ve read in 12 years of playing fantasy. Your website is now my homepage.

Rob

Are you starting Duffy @ Cle today in a 12 team H2H points league? I never know what to expect from him. If he gets rocked I will probably lose this week so I am apprehensive. Thanks! I love this site.

Nick Pollack

Thanks Rob!

If it’s close, I’m okay sitting Duffy. I’m leaning slightly to start Duffy in normal circumstances though.

Brandon

If you had to choose between Minor or Lopez, what’s your gut say? Thanks for all the really great content!!

Brandon

Thanks Nick! Much appreciated. I’ve watched both starts and was undecided especially because you have Minor ranked higher and I was also generally deciding on a longer term roster spot.

Nick Pollack

I actually did watch a little and I love his two-seamer.

For the sake of fantasy though, it is super lucky as this was a bullpen game. He’s not stretched out and shouldn’t be considered as a starter. Simply not going to get the innings opening you up for a ton of risk and little reward.

omar

What’s Tanaka’s ceiling, assuming health the remainder of the season?
8 team AL Only 5×5 Standard roto… Thinking about offering Kluber and Bregman for his Tanaka and Correa. Thoughts? Is the gap between Klubot and Tanaka too wide to consider this?

Great write-ups. Thanks!!

Nick Pollack

I think it’s a somewhat fair trade, with myself leaning slightly on the Kluber side. It depends on how badly you need Correa.

Tanaka’s ceiling is capped by a HR problem that will never truly go away. I’d say in the SP 11-20 range.

Sam

Nick, ever consider putting the pitch count along with the line? I think it’d be interesting to see and lend some idea whether a guy was pulled for going deep or getting pushed around.

Nick Pollack

I have considered it, would be very easy to do. My thoughts against it is that I don’t want to bloat it too much. I could also adds Whiffs, HRs allowed, Strikes thrown, etc. Keeping it at as a basic line + I’ll note anything interesting extra was the compromise I made.

Totally open to reconsider that if you and others would prefer adding more to the lines.

ak

prob gonna sit Chase vs CHC on Sunday, esp after last performance. Then again they aren’t real hot right now. Thoughts?

Matthew Ahern

In regards to Chirinos they have no 4th starter to fill out the rotation right now with Eovaldi out. I think he is the guy we see take that slot and doesn’t look back.

I was thoroughly impressed with him. His FB is sweet with that horizontal/sinking action and produced a lot of weak groundball contact. Not massive K upside here, but could certainly help in WHIP and ERA. Definitely worth an add in deeper leagues and watch list on shallower formats. He made easy worth of the Sox now twice even with 2nd extended longer look for them.

Nick Pollack

I really hope you’re right! No question, a good add for deep leagues and keeper formats.

Like you mentioned, I like his raw stuff here, but for most purposes, he shouldn’t be owned…yet. I figured I’d quickly silence those thinking they should run to the wire in 12-teamers.

He could become that, but for now it’s not worth it.

CN91

Hey Nick – just a minor typo on Reynaldo’s game for tomorrow. He faced the Blue Jays last time out, not the Tigers.

Paul Mitchell

Hey Nick,

I’m in a points league that heavily values strikeouts and wins…my predicament is that I have to pick a streamer today because of roster stuff that is happening with DL. Who would you pick to stream today out of Moore, McCarthy, perdomo, or woodruff? Who has the best k upside in your opinion?

Ronny

Did you watch any of Price’s start? I’m a little concerned at the lack of whiffs and abundance of flyballs…I know you said AGA, but I’m wondering if it’s not a sell high sitch?

Nick Pollack

I did a bit, both of them. I would like more whiffs, but I see him spotting his heater well out of the gate and his whole schtick is working. I’m not worried, but if someone is paying Top 10 SP value for him, then yeah, I’d sell.

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